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Seawolf
June 5th, 2004, 18:26
This deserves a thread in here because he was one of the greatest Presidents ever.

So this is the *OFFICIAL* death thread.

:wtc:

Dogg
June 5th, 2004, 19:30
Ok, Reagan is the man....but jesssus christ....first we had a black man in a white vehicle on CNN, now we got a white man in a black vehicle on CNN...

Is it really that important to chase a hearse around the freeways and streets...

Not very respectful in my opinion....just because CNN and the rest have been waiting for years to play these clips doesn't mean they need to be idiots about it...

-silent-
June 5th, 2004, 19:34
uhh dogg you lost me

Dogg
June 5th, 2004, 19:40
Reagan died today...CNN is chasing his hearse (a dead persons vehicle) around the freeways and streets...

-silent-
June 5th, 2004, 19:48
I meant by the "we had a black man in a white vehicle on CNN, now we got a white man in a black vehicle on CNN..." :X

Dogg
June 5th, 2004, 19:55
I meant by the "we had a black man in a white vehicle on CNN, now we got a white man in a black vehicle on CNN..." :X




ummmmm never heard of OJ Simpson?

Wildwilly
June 6th, 2004, 11:19
stay on topic please...

i'm deeply saddened. he was the first president that i remember, and i remember as a 9-10 yr old being in awe of his speeches. he spoke with such passion and conviction. even as a kid i could tell he was someone to be admired, and feared. when i was in high school i had his picture in my locker and on the front of my binder.

Seawolf
June 6th, 2004, 13:00
MAG: 'I WAS IN AWE,' BUSH SAYS OF REAGAN
Sun Jun 06 2004 09:09:44 ET

New York -- "I learned about principle, I learned about kindness, I learned about humor. Ronald Reagan was unfailingly courteous to the people around him, thoughtful to the little guy, the elevator operator, the butler at the White House." George H.W. Bush is calling up memories from his years as Reagan's political mate, Vice President and friend, TIME' s Hugh Sidey writes in the magazine's special commemorative issue, Ronald Reagan 1911-2004 (on newsstands Monday, June 7th).

Bush shapes a private picture of a man he learned to love and admire, and the one he finally felt comfortable calling Ron. But in the 1980 Republican presidential primaries, the two men sparred, with Bush landing a punch by labeling Reagan's supply-side nostrums "voodoo economics." And then the vagaries of high-level politics put them in harness for the big campaign. "I remember in Reagan's debate with Carter, when Carter said about me,' Here's your man, and he calls it voodoo economics, so what are you going to do?' Reagan looks over at me and gives me this big wink and then gave Carter some kind of brush-off."

"What I thought was important was the personal chemistry, that he could know that anything we discussed would be in total privacy, and I would not be out plowing my own furrow at his expense. I was not a policymaker. I was to support whatever decision he made. And not to disagree with him in debate in the Cabinet Room," Bush tells Sidey.

Bush had lunch with Reagan every Thursday whenever they were both in Washington. "It was a wonderful thing to look forward to, and there was never one leak out of it. We hit it off very well. I could say,' Here's what I think is happening.' He would listen. I would say, Maybe you ought to do this to get this Senator to do that. He did not often comment on my suggestions. There was none of this 'Here's a three-point agenda, and you go out and then report back to me.' He made some tough calls, but there was always this pleasant way about him. He never had any kind of arrogance."

The Great Communicator was also a tutor. "I was in awe," says Bush. "President Reagan went to Normandy and gave those great speeches. When he came back, I asked him, 'How did you ever get through those speeches without breaking up?' He said, 'Here's what you do. You write it out yourself, and then you say it over and over again. And by doing that, it is still personal the way you say it, but you don't feel that you are apt to choke up.'"

Bush notes how Reagan's warmth and humor could reshape his positions without creating the impression of inconsistency. "He sent me off to see [Soviet President Mikhail] Gorbachev. I guess I was the first one of any authority to meet with him. I wrote out the cable of that meeting and sent it back saying this leader was different. When I got back, many people were disgusted." Nevertheless, Reagan, who had famously called the Soviet Union the "evil empire," was warming to a quiet thaw. "I don't think the President ever changed his views to 'I love communism,'" says Bush. "He had this way with people. He could say that 'I understand where you are coming from,' rather than say, 'You are right, and I have been wrong all of these years.' The next thing you know, he had a very good relationship with Gorbachev, a very personal one." At the Iceland summit, says Bush, Reagan made the rather "romantic" proposal to Gorbachev that they "get rid of all nukes," a wonderful but impossible dream then. Says Bush of his predecessor: "I never had any misgivings about his courage. I never had doubts that if push came to shove, he would do what was needed in the interest of the country."

-silent-
June 7th, 2004, 20:49
nice site intro sw

Seawolf
June 7th, 2004, 20:52
nice site intro sw
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CrazyIvan
June 8th, 2004, 04:13
the greatest president of my time