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SandBox
May 7th, 2004, 16:54
Red Cross says it warned U.S. of prisoner abuse in Iraq more than a year ago
05:52 PM EDT May 07
GENEVA (AP) - The international Red Cross said Friday it had warned U.S. officials of abuse of prisoners in Iraq more than a year ago.

"Our findings were discussed at different moments between March and November 2003, either in direct face-to-face conversations or in written interventions," said Pierre Kraehenbuehl, director of operations for the International Committee of the Red Cross.

He declined to give details of the contents, but confirmed that a leaked ICRC report to U.S. authorities, published Friday by the Wall Street Journal, was genuine.

The newspaper said that the 24-page report described prisoners kept naked in total darkness in empty cells at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison and male prisoners forced to parade around in women's underwear. Coalition forces also fired on unarmed prisoners from watchtowers, killing some of them.

In another episode, nine men were arrested in Basra and beaten severely, leading to one death, it added.

"Ill-treatment during interrogation was not systematic, except with regard to persons arrested with suspected security offences or deemed to have an intelligence value," the report said, according to the newspaper.

It said that information obtained "suggested the use of ill-treatment against persons deprived of their liberty went beyond exceptional cases and might be considered a practice tolerated by" coalition forces.

The report was sent to the United States in February but represented a summary of the information given to U.S. authorities the previous year, Kraehenbuehl told a news conference.

He said the abuse of prisoners represented more than isolated acts, and that the problems were not limited to the Abu Ghraib prison

"We were dealing here with a broad pattern, not individual acts. There was a pattern and a system," he said.

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/040507/w050746.html

munter
May 7th, 2004, 17:16
Check the international red cross commité (www.icrc.org) if you haven't already. Lots of fun stuff there, and they're probabaly the least biased organization you'll find that reports from hot spots.

Dogg
May 7th, 2004, 17:34
Show me anything published before Jan 14th and then the icrc can talk...if they knew so much, they sure didn't say very much until after the US took action on it's own people...

Not a very worth while organization considering they wait till a "scandal" breaks out to say they were the sole voice of reason...

And they weren't silenced by Kanadians "secret US government"...they are plenty of news organizations they could've reported to...they are half the blame to wait till now to speak up...

-silent-
May 7th, 2004, 18:20
It could have been that they approached the US government and hoped things would/did change and kept quiet so that it wouldnt be a scandal... but I doubt it

oPiumologist
May 7th, 2004, 20:01
This whole prisoner thing has gotten out of hand. Almost ALL of the wars in the past have been fought with little to very little media coverage. Horrific things have been done to U.S. prisoners by many countries. The media reporters are embedded in the batallions as never before, and civilians are just beginning to see what war is really like... but then again, this is changing due to technological advances like 'smart bombs,' tank computers, better armor, etc. Americans at home didn't see half the things that were commited against the Japanese and German POWs 60 years ago.
The newspaper said that the 24-page report described prisoners kept naked in total darkness in empty cells at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison and male prisoners forced to parade around in women's underwear.
Yes, some Iraqi prisoners were beaten or killed, but for those who were humiliated, big friging deal. There are things worse than being embarassed. Get over it.

Seawolf
May 7th, 2004, 23:01
As a rule, the Red Cross doesn't talk about its findings publically. :slap:

-silent-
May 8th, 2004, 07:13
until there is someone else to blame ^^